WII U Intel m5 Console

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by jacksmack » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:26 am

banjokazooie wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:04 am
wer573982 wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:46 pm
@ banjokazooie HI! Have you tried to modify the TDP for better performance? Trying Intel® XTU does not unlock higher power consumption.
What will be the point for higher TDP if you cannot keep the stick under 80 degrees. My second version of cooling solution with a massive aluminum heatsink and two fans could barely keep the stick under 75 in a room witch ambient temperature of 30 degrees in the summer. :o
There is just no way you can maintain a reasonable temperature under full load with case closed. :cry:
Awesome work! I'm looking to do a waaay more simplistic build (if you could even call it that!) by cobbling together a M5, portable monitor, powerbank and retractable controller. Information is hard to come by regarding the M5 stick; do you recall how severe the throtteling was without cooling solutions, as in when it was brand new out of the box and not encased?

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by IlMarso91 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:37 pm

Hi edited my post with what I bought:

Screen (I know may sound strange but I want a low res screen)
https://www.ebay.it/itm/372341557514 + https://it.aliexpress.com/item/33001160376.html

HDMI DIP - https://it.aliexpress.com/item/32833580742.html

Type C Female - https://www.ebay.it/itm/392694676953

FFC to DIP 10PIN (x2) - https://www.ebay.it/itm/143037177874

POLOLU-2865 Pololu 5V, 6A Step-Down Voltage Regulator D24V60F5 - (took this, hopes it will work) https://it.aliexpress.com/item/4000640518591.html

POLOLU-2813 Big Pushbutton Power Switch - https://www.ebay.it/itm/202923850403

Teensy 2.0++ USB AVR Development Board - (took this, hopes it will work) https://it.aliexpress.com/item/32953459905.html

2S 8A 7.4V Lithium Li-ion Battery Cell BMS (x2) - https://www.ebay.it/itm/401440817614

TP5100 2A battery charger module (x2) - https://www.ebay.it/itm/352808906190

3.7V 4000 battery (x2) - https://www.ebay.it/itm/232963024650

As "brain" I will use an Intel Celeron N3350 (or N4100) stick.

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by AntFJ » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:36 pm

just got out the calipers... that screen will be a tight fit. 155mm is against the dpad and button wells with no room to spare

looks like you're off to a great start though.. good luck!

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by IlMarso91 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:08 pm

I measured the stock screen and including the "bracket" it measure 155."something"mm
It's a close fit but should not be too hard to fit in.

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by darkmore » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:55 am

@IlMarso91

Thank you for the list and links very usefull!

Have you considered a compute stick m3 maybe, it is really cheap on ebay without OS and no powersupply. The 6y30 I think is more powerfull for its lower 4.5 TDP then the Celerons.

Are you buying separate displays and control boards because of size restrictions? Or the drawn power is usually less then on these allinone products? Like this one, has HDMI, menu control, sound amp:
https://www.waveshare.com/product/displ ... mi-lcd.htm

Sorry for the noob questions, I just started to gather my resources to make a portable PC handheld.

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by IlMarso91 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:23 am

First a quick update, ditched the Teensy in favor of an Arduino Micro, done that just for XInput (already tried and it's working like a charm) I would have choose a Teensy LC but those are more expensive in Italy than a Micro without headers O.o

darkmore wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:55 am
Have you considered a compute stick m3 maybe, it is really cheap on ebay without OS and no powersupply. The 6y30 I think is more powerfull for its lower 4.5 TDP then the Celerons.
I actually found a M3 stick yesterday for 150 euros with free shipping which is a lot less than the celerons for less power consumption and far more power.
darkmore wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:55 am
Are you buying separate displays and control boards because of size restrictions? Or the drawn power is usually less then on these allinone products? Like this one, has HDMI, menu control, sound amp:
https://www.waveshare.com/product/displ ... mi-lcd.htm

Sorry for the noob questions, I just started to gather my resources to make a portable PC handheld.
I just bought the same screen that everyone seems to use in for their Raspberry builds. And the board I bought include also speakers out and the amp. Bought separated just because it was cheaper xD

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by darkmore » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:27 am

IlMarso91 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:23 am
I actually found a M3 stick yesterday for 150 euros with free shipping which is a lot less than the celerons for less power consumption and far more power.
I hope I can get the M3 around that price, but I don't know if the TDP can be changed for these compute sticks in the BIOS or via Intels XTU.
For advanced gaming 7W TDP is needed and you can push it more. My GPD win2 with m3-7y30 had the sweetspot at 9W TDP and I could undervolt my CPU+GPU -60mV, the m3-6y30 is a very similar chipset it has slight less GHz's:
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_c ... 3_6y30-565

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by IlMarso91 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:54 pm

darkmore wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:27 am
IlMarso91 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:23 am
I actually found a M3 stick yesterday for 150 euros with free shipping which is a lot less than the celerons for less power consumption and far more power.
I hope I can get the M3 around that price, but I don't know if the TDP can be changed for these compute sticks in the BIOS or via Intels XTU.
For advanced gaming 7W TDP is needed and you can push it more. My GPD win2 with m3-7y30 had the sweetspot at 9W TDP and I could undervolt my CPU+GPU -60mV, the m3-6y30 is a very similar chipset it has slight less GHz's:
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_c ... 3_6y30-565
Found an M3 Stick (STK2M364CC) for 130 euros shipped (no original box but... who cares)!
My only problem is that the stick is rated for 5.2V@2.2A would 5V be enough?
The converter I bought is rated for 5V@5A.
What can I use to output 5.2V?
AntFJ wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:36 pm
just got out the calipers... that screen will be a tight fit. 155mm is against the dpad and button wells with no room to spare

looks like you're off to a great start though.. good luck!
Lcd arrived today it fit perfectly! Only had to cut the lateral plastic.

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by darkmore » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

5V will be enough but measure it, best would be to hook it up to an oscilloscope and monitor if the 5V is stable without any voltage spikes, I have read that people connected they m3/m5 stick to a common 5V 2A powerbank and it killed the compute stick...

Oh and in addition to my TDP tipp, this only makes sense if the stick does not get hot, which means you will need a better heatsink /+ fan, but that will be hard in a Wii U contorllers shell (I'm planning to build my own shell actually, I'm just here to collect info as there are not many forums dealing with compute stick builds, not active that is).

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Re: WII U Intel m5 Console

Post by IlMarso91 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:01 am

darkmore wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm
5V will be enough but measure it, best would be to hook it up to an oscilloscope and monitor if the 5V is stable without any voltage spikes, I have read that people connected they m3/m5 stick to a common 5V 2A powerbank and it killed the compute stick...

Oh and in addition to my TDP tipp, this only makes sense if the stick does not get hot, which means you will need a better heatsink /+ fan, but that will be hard in a Wii U contorllers shell (I'm planning to build my own shell actually, I'm just here to collect info as there are not many forums dealing with compute stick builds, not active that is).
Well the Pololu 2813 should avoid those spikes from whatthey say

https://www.pololu.com/product/2813

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