Sega Gamepie 3
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Sega Gamepie 3
Hello all,
Ive been thinking about a portable retropie for a while now and I just happened to stumble across the perfect opportunity when I found a beat up gamegear at my local goodwill. The screen was said to not be working and but in my mind I was already looking ahead at a new screen to go with the upgraded pi3 internals.
So this project has been underway for a while now, its been a slow process so far, and likely will continue to be slow. This thread will serve as my WIP thread and will help me keep my project orderly, as I can be a bit ADD and scatter brained sometimes especially mid-project.
I'll try to keep the thread orderly and update as I go.
From the start; here is the orginal gear: Testing my Pi, running retropie: PS2 USB Controller and BW 3.5 Inch TFT LCD Monitor for Car Disassemble and Testing: Once, I made sure everything was working I started to mod the game gear case: I still have some more mods to come to the case, I want to include an L1R1 & L2R2 buttons as well but I dont know exactly how I want to implement them yet. I would like them to look stock and "original" to the case. Ideas are welcome here
The hardware will be discussed as a follow up. I can't seem to attach any more pictures so I will include those in the next.
Ive been thinking about a portable retropie for a while now and I just happened to stumble across the perfect opportunity when I found a beat up gamegear at my local goodwill. The screen was said to not be working and but in my mind I was already looking ahead at a new screen to go with the upgraded pi3 internals.
So this project has been underway for a while now, its been a slow process so far, and likely will continue to be slow. This thread will serve as my WIP thread and will help me keep my project orderly, as I can be a bit ADD and scatter brained sometimes especially mid-project.
I'll try to keep the thread orderly and update as I go.
From the start; here is the orginal gear: Testing my Pi, running retropie: PS2 USB Controller and BW 3.5 Inch TFT LCD Monitor for Car Disassemble and Testing: Once, I made sure everything was working I started to mod the game gear case: I still have some more mods to come to the case, I want to include an L1R1 & L2R2 buttons as well but I dont know exactly how I want to implement them yet. I would like them to look stock and "original" to the case. Ideas are welcome here
The hardware will be discussed as a follow up. I can't seem to attach any more pictures so I will include those in the next.
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
Back at it.
As for the hardware, I probably didn't need to but for the sake of learning, and working on my soldering skills, I desoldered the USB's, Ethernet, composite and header pins. This was the first time doing this, and you can actually see how I progressed. The first USB I butchered and was worried I might have bricked the Pi, after testing and realizing I didn't I proceeded with the other USB, Ethernet, composite out and header pins. I did the header pins last and I was on a roll at that point and they don't look half bad. You can see its not the prettiest thing. I then came back and desoldered the other USB, the Ethernet, the composite out and header pins. These turned out much better. I went ahead and did a quick check with the controller to see if the USB was still all good before I proceeded. Next was to start mod'ing the controller to suit. Here I dremeled the analog off and soldered the one stick directly back to the controller board. This wasnt so bad. The next part is to solder wires directly to the pads on the controller board to bridge the connection to the future perf board that will have my tactile switches. This part is difficult because of how small the pads area are. You can see in the first picture the Dpad pads are large spacious pads, however, the buttons ( X, O square and triangle) pads are these weird interlocking lines. I havent finished this yet and am actually working on this now, if you have any suggestions for the best way to solder these I am listening. Anyway, I used the solder points on one button to try another quick test. Proof of concept just for my own sanity. The end game is the controller buttons wired to the perf board. I'll have similar setups for the select button and L1R1 L2R2 This controller part is a slow process but I think I just need to solder the wires up best I can and then hotglue them. As I mentioned before I still need to figure out how I am going to do the L1R1 and L2R2 buttons on the case. But besides that I really have the controller under control. I think hah
The next post is where I have some real questions where I could use some advice.
As for the hardware, I probably didn't need to but for the sake of learning, and working on my soldering skills, I desoldered the USB's, Ethernet, composite and header pins. This was the first time doing this, and you can actually see how I progressed. The first USB I butchered and was worried I might have bricked the Pi, after testing and realizing I didn't I proceeded with the other USB, Ethernet, composite out and header pins. I did the header pins last and I was on a roll at that point and they don't look half bad. You can see its not the prettiest thing. I then came back and desoldered the other USB, the Ethernet, the composite out and header pins. These turned out much better. I went ahead and did a quick check with the controller to see if the USB was still all good before I proceeded. Next was to start mod'ing the controller to suit. Here I dremeled the analog off and soldered the one stick directly back to the controller board. This wasnt so bad. The next part is to solder wires directly to the pads on the controller board to bridge the connection to the future perf board that will have my tactile switches. This part is difficult because of how small the pads area are. You can see in the first picture the Dpad pads are large spacious pads, however, the buttons ( X, O square and triangle) pads are these weird interlocking lines. I havent finished this yet and am actually working on this now, if you have any suggestions for the best way to solder these I am listening. Anyway, I used the solder points on one button to try another quick test. Proof of concept just for my own sanity. The end game is the controller buttons wired to the perf board. I'll have similar setups for the select button and L1R1 L2R2 This controller part is a slow process but I think I just need to solder the wires up best I can and then hotglue them. As I mentioned before I still need to figure out how I am going to do the L1R1 and L2R2 buttons on the case. But besides that I really have the controller under control. I think hah
The next post is where I have some real questions where I could use some advice.
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
So, in the beginning I said this project has been underway for a while already. I've used the last two posts to catch up to about where I am currently at with the project.
My next problem to tackle is the sound circuit. I've read and followed similar guides i've found and will provide those links if necessary but ill try and explain my questions.
Here I have the original Sega sound card. I was hoping to use this but when I tried to replace the capacitors on it I had a hell of a time with the surface mount caps and didn't trust my soldering.
My next thought was to cannibalize it. So I desoldered the port and the wheel. So this is where I am stuck. I would like to have two speakers, the original only had one. And I imagine the port and the wheel soldered to perf board similar to the controller buttons. But I dont know which pins are what on the wheel or the port. I tried to follow the traces on the board but they run to the filter and then I cant follow them. And then that got me thinking, maybe these caps and filters are important and I need them.
Anyway here is a picture of the block diagram from the sega manual. My question therefore is;
Can I, or is it worth it to, fix the original sound card. Understanding that I think the capacitors are all crap.
And if I cant use it, can I use pieces of it to make my own, understanding I dont fully follow the pinouts of the piece parts.
OR, should I just buy a sound card?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts and I really look forward to continuing this project.
Thanks
My next problem to tackle is the sound circuit. I've read and followed similar guides i've found and will provide those links if necessary but ill try and explain my questions.
Here I have the original Sega sound card. I was hoping to use this but when I tried to replace the capacitors on it I had a hell of a time with the surface mount caps and didn't trust my soldering.
My next thought was to cannibalize it. So I desoldered the port and the wheel. So this is where I am stuck. I would like to have two speakers, the original only had one. And I imagine the port and the wheel soldered to perf board similar to the controller buttons. But I dont know which pins are what on the wheel or the port. I tried to follow the traces on the board but they run to the filter and then I cant follow them. And then that got me thinking, maybe these caps and filters are important and I need them.
Anyway here is a picture of the block diagram from the sega manual. My question therefore is;
Can I, or is it worth it to, fix the original sound card. Understanding that I think the capacitors are all crap.
And if I cant use it, can I use pieces of it to make my own, understanding I dont fully follow the pinouts of the piece parts.
OR, should I just buy a sound card?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts and I really look forward to continuing this project.
Thanks
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
check out the audio diagram in VeteranGamers build log, he does an excellent job of documenting. i think thats what you need.https://sudomod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=4858
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"Battery Cover Buttons" install guide and support
My CSO build #1 - with "Battery Cover Buttons"
My CSO build #2 - the "sudoNod"
My MintyPi v3 build #1
"If you're bored, you're boring."
"Battery Cover Buttons" install guide and support
My CSO build #1 - with "Battery Cover Buttons"
My CSO build #2 - the "sudoNod"
My MintyPi v3 build #1
"If you're bored, you're boring."
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
That is a great resource, you're right in that it will work for me. I was hoping to be able to use what I already had, but this may be the route I have to take. Appreciate the linkcheck out the audio diagram in VeteranGamers build log, he does an excellent job of documenting. i think thats what you need.
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
i dont know if you've come across this....forrestfire wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:24 amThat is a great resource, you're right in that it will work for me. I was hoping to be able to use what I already had, but this may be the route I have to take. Appreciate the linkcheck out the audio diagram in VeteranGamers build log, he does an excellent job of documenting. i think thats what you need.
heres how he uses the power board as well
if you cant get the game gear boards to work....
if you use the method i used....
with a sound card and amp, the sound is clear and loud (you wont be disappointed)
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
I had seen that build video, and is what I originally had in mind for my build. However, like I said I didn't trust my soldering on the surface mount caps. I might look into getting non-surface mount caps similar to those used in the video. Could be a cheaper solution than your method.
Thanks for the input, i'll keep you posted
Thanks for the input, i'll keep you posted
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Re: Sega Gamepie 3
it might not be a bad idea to have an attempt (whats the worst that can happen)....forrestfire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:55 am
However, like I said I didn't trust my soldering on the surface mount caps. I might look into getting non-surface mount caps similar to those used in the video.
Could be a cheaper solution than your method.
it doesnt look that bad/difficult to change the capacitors (just make sure you use a decent soldering iron).....
heres a guide (that might help).....
you can always try buying a board thats had the capacitors already replaced
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEGA-GAME-GE ... SwMmBV2zw3
but the method i used, is actually a very cheap option....
the only reason if i wasn't to use it would be to keep the original board and not because of any costs....
Class D PAM8403 Amp $0.27
USB Sound Card $0.76
you could use the existing volume wheel and headphones thats on the Game Gear board, if not buying new one are also really cheap
B103 Potentiometer Volume wheel $1.48
Headphone Socket $0.76
thats everything excluding the speakers, and it well under $5 (and the headphone and volume wheel are packs of 10)
besides it looks like you have most of what you need anyway, just need a USB Sound Card
good luck with which every route you take.....
i'm looking forward to seeing your progress......
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